hi i don't mean tie my shoe laces together,.
i realize some theocatic warfare involved (lying) getting fed up with trying to fade .. how do jw family members react?.
Elders df someone - you are stumbled. So if they df you, you are even more stumbled. You wont be able to recognise them as spiritually qualified to tie a shoe lace let alone df you.
By they way, if they are not too busy could they pop round and give your tootsies a wash. You've got toe jam and you've been reading these scriptures about Jesus and the fine way he cared for his disciple's feet.
what a weekend.
i have my normal medications to take; one white pill, one purple pill, one blue pill, one yellow pill ... you get the idea.. but having to watch the regional assembly on-line had me stressed.
i now realized i accidentally took too many of those big purple pills.
You are to be commended. Did they notice you reading the newspaper?
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
The baptism which identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witness does not mean Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. By their own definition, Jesus Christ was the greatest witness that Jehovah is the true God. For Jehovah's Witnesses, the term is just an alternative way of saying Christian. The actual term in Isaiah was directed to those of the House of Jacob. Not London Bethel or 900 Red Mills Road, Wallkill.
And what is God's spirit directed organisation? Do they mean Holy Spirit? Yes. But the GB are apostate to God's Holy Spirity because they are liars.
A body is made up of organs. In that way a body is organised.
(1 Corinthians 12:19-27) . . .If they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now they are many members, yet one body. 21 The eye cannot say to the hand: “I have no need of you”; or, again, the head [cannot say] to the feet: “I have no need of YOU.” .... 27 Now you are Christ’s body, and members individually.
So how has anyone every really been baptised into a media company with Caleb and Sophia cartoons?
on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.
i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.
it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.
Vanderhoven7 - yup Jesus sure did an excellent job.
Smiddy and Menrov - I've been around long enought to know that people make up their own minds on how they view God. I appreciate you don't share my view of Him.
My personal view is that God created us and He has the right to destroy us. Likely you view me a horrendously mistaken but whether you agree with me or not, we all die.
You may think Jesus was wrong. Ok, well I'll be your version of 'wrong' with Jesus and accept the consquences.
what a weekend.
i have my normal medications to take; one white pill, one purple pill, one blue pill, one yellow pill ... you get the idea.. but having to watch the regional assembly on-line had me stressed.
i now realized i accidentally took too many of those big purple pills.
Hope you wore your id badge.
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
Reading the above makes me wonder about membership.
If you join a pony club, there is a common understanding about what a pony is based on the word 'pony'. You are shown pictures of ponies and told what the club is like. When you join you see one or two ponies. But for the most part it's just empty buildings.
Later you find out this is not a pony club but a front for a criminal gang.
What did you join? A pony club or a criminal gang?
That is what membership of the Watchtower is like, you are conned into joining. Likely, the person giving you the Bible study is giving it in all sincerity. Probably, they don't know the Watchtower is a front for something unchristian.
i think this gal is incredible.
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https://youtu.be/pbms453asdo.
Helps them out during lockdown if householders approach them. Hope the call was viewed as a blessing. They don't want to cut these calls short. Keep them going. Easy way to pioneer and you get to be on at all the conventions.
on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.
i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.
it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.
That's returning to the Governing Body to be stripped of your freedom in return for the privilege of carrying their microphones.
at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.
like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.
can we pinpoint a time or event?.
In Keith Casarona's book (p290) it say that several years after James Olson's death, Leo Greenlees, the pedophile and GB member left Bethel with their blessing and there money too.
So 1975 Greenlees leaves.
Then by 1980 they are pushing Ray Franz out. But he goes without their blessing.
on bbc radio this morning there was a 20 minute piece on jws and the child abuse cover up.
i am already receiving reaction to it from a number of sources.
it occurred to me - if you were giving ordinary members of the public a steer on how to deal with wt publishers what would you advise?.
Justaguynamedmorph - If you say, "when will you return to Jehovah," you have employed their own volcabulary (which THEY understand) and challenged them on their identity in a way that is meaningful to THEM.
Sure they'll say 'we are...blah blah bla'h - but this phrase isn't often said TO them.
Being kind to them can help, after all they are being cheated and it is sad. But even those who are still in but mentally out cannot wake up those who do not want to hear. It is a kind of superstition that holds them not any real association with the teachings in the Bible/Christianity.
Vanderhoven7 - yes no doubt some just view it as telling people God's name is Jehovah. A different approach was taken with me. I was told that making God's name know was Jesus showing people what Jehovah was really like. I certainly was in a very nice congregation for a time, where there were a good number of genuine Christians.
(John 14:9) . . .Jesus said to him: “Have I been with you men so long a time, and yet, Philip, you have not come to know me? He that has seen me has seen the Father. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Our congregation was viewed as a refuge from other congregations where the elders were harsh.
